Heal the Issues in Your Tissues – Christopher Maher on Heal Your Heart Love

Have you ever wondered how to heal the issues in your tissues?

Watch Christopher’s interview with his dear friend and former client, Melissa Rebronja from Heal Your Heart Love.

They spoke about how to heal the issues in your tissues, True Body Intelligence, applying Navy SEAL training methods to healing, trauma honesty, how to build self-esteem with discipline, the importance of honoring your word, human design, and much more.

Check out the video below to watch the full interview:

How to Heal The Issues In Your Tissues – A Conversation with Christopher Maher on Heal Your Heart Love – Transcript

Melissa Rebronja 

Hello and welcome. My name is Melissa Rebronja. I am a trauma sensitive healing practitioner, educator and host at healyourheart.love and today’s guest is Christopher Lee Maher. Christopher is a former Navy SEAL and Olympic hopeful who discovered the detrimental effects of accumulated stress on his health, despite being physically fit. He studied traditional Chinese medicine practices and dedicated years to research and develop True Body Intelligence, a comprehensive system that integrates and heals the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual aspects of individuals. He is the author of Free for Life: A Navy SEAL’s Path to Inner Freedom and Outer Peace. Great book, I read it. It’s basically Christopher’s story and how he healed himself and about his work. Christopher has a client base ranging from sports to international politics. He has a practice in Los Angeles that focuses on holistic well-being and longevity. For more information on Christopher’s work, go to truebodyintelligence.com

Christopher Maher

Hey, hey

Melissa Rebronja

Hello hello, welcome.

Christopher Maher

How are you doing?

Melissa Rebronja

I’m good. How are you?

Christopher Maher

I’m excellent.

Melissa Rebronja 

I love it. So let’s backtrack from the beginning.

Christopher Maher

Okay.

Melissa Rebronja

You and I met, I believe at the end of 2015, which was about eight years ago now. And I think you came recommended. And I showed up with an emotional issue. And I still remember it. And you listened to me. And then you said, let’s get you on the table. And I was like, what? Didn’t this guy hear me? So then I got on the table, and you worked on my feet, if I remember correctly. But before I even got to you, I was on two different body machines. One was a Jade Bed…and then…which was nice and relaxing…and then, I was on this like ShaKing machine. And then I got to this person. And then I got on the table. And I felt like you knew what you were doing. But at that time, I was like, Why didn’t this guy hear what I had to say? Right? I liked what I experienced. So I showed up for more. We had a bunch of sessions, and then I did some of your training as well. And I do still use it in some of my work. I consider you an important person in my life. And I would say a Master Healer. I know that’s a weird kind of thing to say but but in some ways you are that. You are a master of a healing method, one that you developed and it’s called True Body Intelligence. So for those who are not familiar with you, how would you describe your methodology of helping people?

Christopher Maher

My methodology, which is interesting as a contrast, is very simple. And yet the cases that I work with are very complex, right, so I could be working with someone who is struggling with transgenderism. Or I could be working with someone who has had a full blown eating disorder for 13 years. Or I could be working with someone who has something very simple like, every time I jump then I shoot the basketball, I come down, I have pain in my ankle, right?

So I go from the very complex, psychological-emotional to the very simple physical things to deal with. And so my job as a healer, as a coach, as a guide, as a teacher, is to meet the person where they’re at. And then provide a solution that makes sense. And then to teach them how to modify and further that solution so that they get an incredible, consistent life change that they can rely on.

I think the thing that makes me unique Melissa, is that I’m able to teach the person how to solve their own challenge. Whether it’s spiritual illness, right through unethical, immoral, disintegrated behavior, or if it’s emotional sickness, right? They’re absent, anxious constantly, suffering from depression, having morbid thoughts, suppressing their real feelings and desires, having a sense of hopelessness, or they’re all over the place, or I can help someone who has mental sickness, and what I mean by mental sickness is they’re unable to make good decisions, be sober and realistic with their choices, develop their own natural sense of a philosophy, and able to problem solve their own innate challenges.

And I deal with people who have physical sickness. And what I mean by sickness is a lack of intelligence. There’s something blocking them from accessing that inherent intelligence that’s in every single human on the planet. And that might look like being unable to define clear boundaries, unable to communicate clearly to their own benefit, unable to take right action to their own benefit, unable to protect themselves against inappropriate attacks, or unable to heal themselves and become well when they get sick. Those are the areas where I am really more of a Grand Master, someone who’s masterful is someone who’s put in 10,000 hours of energy, effort, study, and practice. I’ve put in 100,000 hours. So I’m 10 times someone who’s masterful. So that’s why I can work with the most complex cases on the planet, and produce verifiable, repeatable results every single time.

Melissa Rebronja

I love the confidence that you have, and I think, specific clientele, they need that. Would you say that you are trauma sensitive? What that means in the trauma world is that you are very gentle with people, you offer them choice? Would you say that you’re a trauma sensitive practitioner?

Christopher Maher 

Let’s say what I am is I’m trauma aware. Yes, I’m a trauma honest.

Melissa Rebronja 

Yes. Tell me what that means.

Christopher Maher

What that means is, if you want to participate, if you want me to participate in something that’s outside of reality, I’ll do that in order to meet you. But I’ll stop that the second we meet, and we’re clear.

Melissa Rebronja

Right

Christopher Maher

Okay. And so let’s say a friend of yours, or someone else, you know, you refer them to me. And they’re trauma sensitive around the volume of someone’s voice, or they’re trauma sensitive around males, because they’re a female, that had a father who was loud, and also broke their physical boundaries, and hit them inappropriately whenever he was angered.

Right. So I can be trauma sensitive in the sense that I understand where they’re coming from. And it’s an intuitive thing that happens. I know, before they even walk through the door. Because all that weekend before I start working with them, their spirit, their soul, it’s already communicating with me, and I have a gift called clear audience. And so that means that the way that the universe, the way that if you want to say God, or their soul, or any individual in my life, wants to communicate with me, I can hear whatever their psychic thoughts are. So I already know how to prepare my body, but also how to prepare my space for the person who’s coming well before they walk in the door.

Melissa Rebronja

Right

Christopher Maher

And then I will alter my language. I will alter my volume. I will alter my body position. Because I know exactly what I need to do in order for them to feel safe, so that we can build rapport.

Yet once that report is established, we need to participate in reality, rather than fantasy and I’m willing to have an uncomfortable conversation. That’s a push back where they’re feeling like they want to pull me into something as a strategy in order to avoid being present center.

I’m trauma sensitive to a point where we meet in rapport. Now we’ve established a trust, now that the trust is there, we can have an uncomfortable conversation about how you’re co creating what’s manifesting in your life and let’s see where this comes from. Because once we have the information, and we have the education, it’s easy to let go of limiting beliefs that keep me or you or anyone we’re helping from experiencing the life that we really want to experience in terms of how they’re being.

This is very different than goal setting. Coaches, they’re into goal setting, right? Me? I’m into the way that you’re being. Because if I get you emotionally present where you’re absent, it’s going to be easy for you to connect with others. If I can get you mentally present where you’re absent, you’re going to feel more confident making bold choices. If I can get you physically present where you’re absent, you’re going to be able to take right action, to your own benefit and to the benefit of those you love. And if I can get you to be spiritually present where you’re absent, you’re going to access behaviors that are ethical, moral, integris, and highly principled in relationship to your own set of ethics, which means you’re going to start to build inner and outer self esteem at an incredibly fast rate, which is going to change the trajectory of your life experience. And that’s what True Body Intelligence is all about.

Melissa Rebronja

Yeah, yeah. And you’re a different kind of practitioner. And I don’t want to say in your face, but in some ways, like you expect the person to show up and be their best and you believe in their best self.

Christopher Maher

Yeah, for sure. Because it’s very, ever since I was a child, it was very easy for me to see the high qualities in people. I rarely am ever paying attention to what they devalue about themselves. And you can say, okay, he sees the world through rose colored glasses, that’s someone who’s perpetually positive, I’m perpetually neutral. Which means I have no noise about how you’re being, where you’ve been, or what you’ve done. All I care about is getting you feeling safe.

So you can take heartfelt action to your own benefit. And then once that happens, everyone in your life is impacted positively. It’s your relationship with your mom changes, relationship with your children changes, your relationship with your husband changes, your relationship with food changes, your relationship with your body changes, and if we can get those relationships in the right order, meaning in a neutral position, then you can start to love yourself.

And when you start to love yourself and give yourself positive attention, everyone who’s around you loves being around you because they feel the love is congruent. Versus I’m giving everybody else around me love and giving myself a couple of crumbs. Well, when you feed yourself, I know it’s counterintuitive, because the Bible teaches us help those rather than help yourself. I would negate that and say, by helping yourself, you are helping others. And by helping others you are helping yourself, right. And so I believe in fair and equitable exchange of love and care. Because when I’m feeding me, I’m inspired. I’m jazzed up.

Like today, I had a great day, right? So I’m on a call with you. It’s after my work day. It’s some…we could call this nighttime. It’s dark out. Okay. And yet, I’m, I’m excited to be here, because I know that you and I are going to co-create a conversation that allows others to get more present to something where they know they’re absent. And then that co-created effort. I’m excited. Because today I fed myself first, what did I do?

I went, I had an alignment. After that, I went to the infrared dry sauna. After the infrared dry sauna, I went and did my red light therapy. Then I stretched my body, I did my exercise. I listened to my music. I got myself present before my day even began. And then I gave all that positive energy that I had to the person that I worked with today. And now to you. And this is my second podcast today. I arrived five minutes early. I’m ready to go. I’m fed. I’m happy because I fed myself first. When I feed myself last, I’m getting to these experiences like we’re having today, three or four minutes behind schedule, stressed, trying to figure things out. I’m jumping from here to there. But when I feed me, I’m feeding you. You’re getting the best of me, because I gave the best of myself. To me. That makes sense. And I’m giving from excess rather than deficiency.

Melissa Rebronja

Absolutely. Yeah. I love that. Let’s talk about the five systems of TBI. There’s the ICEntric strength. That’s great. Body of Light is the one that I still use. And thank you for that. It’s so powerful.

It’s magical. Magical. I mean, I’ve had magical experiences. Yeah. Can you just share a little bit about how that came about? And what is it for those people who don’t know?

Christopher Maher

Yeah, this is simple. So even though I look more like a rock star, I’m really more like a scientist. And what I mean by that is this is that first I put together information. And then I test and evaluate the things that I’m putting together, right? So if someone teaches me one little thing, I’m going to take that one little thing, and I’m going to turn it into an entire universe.

To make a long story short, there’s this really amazing, a guy named Russell Burke. And Russell told me this statement, he said, listen, all I want you to say is, I entered the love in my heart. And I thought I entered the love in my heart. And as soon as I said it, I felt it. I was like, boom, I like felt all this energy. I was like, whoa, hold on. You mean, I can manifest change by simply using the word?

And then I remember the Bible. I was born into the Catholic tradition. And then I went to a boarding school for 10 years, which was a non-denominational church. And so they always had, like, 25 minutes, where they’re reading from Scripture. And one of the things they read is, in the beginning, there was the Word, and the Word was with God. And the next statement is, and then the word was God. And so on.

Now that came to my mind, the moment I said that statement, right? And I felt the vibe, I was like, Oh, I got it. Okay, thank you. And then after that, I started creating and manifesting through metaphysics, right through vibration, all these really powerful changes, and every new person who would come to me, I would then go, Okay, I need to add this element. So basically, I’m like an architect. And I create these verbal algorithms that then go in and change the physics through metaphysics, because I’m using subtle energy to create massive change at the physical level, right.

So, the Body of Light, its purpose is to create a body of light. Yeah, because when I’m in my light, which means I’m in Universal Intelligence that’s true, rather than being false, meaning it’s universal, it applies in every realm, in every dimension, at all time, and in all space. Those are universal truths. And as I’m in the light of that, now, you got to remember, we got two things that are very powerful, from God. We got love. And we got light. Love brings feeling and emotion. And light brings information and data.

So the Body of Light is to amplify your intelligence, so that you can make very good decisions about who it is you want to be by transmuting the things that became part of your system that are false. See, the only thing we can do in True Body Intelligence is successfully subtract what’s different than who it is, you really are at your core.

So your parents, my parents, our ancestors, all the listeners, ancestors. They went through the Dark Ages. And the Dark Ages were a very stressful time. And we built up an intense amounts of response and implemented survival based strategies because the environments were incredibly unsafe.

Now, let’s go back simply 25 generations and look at what was going on in the world at that time. Think of what it would be like to be a woman in 400 A.D. In Rome. Yes. Think about that, then think well, what would it be like to be a woman 3500 years ago, in Egypt, or Mesopotamia. And when you look at that, you have to realize that there were intense amounts of survival based strategies that were implemented to survive our circumstances. And the bodies that you and I have, and all the listeners have are full, filled to the brim of survival based strategies that are operating in an unconscious, the subconscious and the superconscious level. And so what Body of Light does is it removes all those epigenetic markers from a minimum of 14 generations.

Melissa Rebronja 

Yeah. So that generational trauma, yeah.

Christopher Maher

So, then you have the ability to be who you came here to be, rather than simply being a reflection of your lineage as trauma, like we’re finally in this time in the world, where we no longer have to participate in our parents limiting beliefs, in their fears, in their inner deficiencies, and their insecurities. You actually get to be Melissa.

For me, that’s exciting. Yeah, right, like, be able to leave this imprint on the planet, and have this impact on the planet, at the right time, with the internet, with all of these different communities with information available, everywhere you turn, to be able to provide something that I know will bring balance to every situation that someone could have ever been in, that was traumatizing, is very exciting, extremely satisfying, and brings my heart and soul an intense amount of peace.

So Body of Light, for me, is one of the most powerful instruments that you can use to reduce your nervous system’s relationship with shock, and stress, and tension and distortion. And as you reduce those levels, look, people get happy they get present.

I mean, I’ve had men and women come to me who are very popular in the world, and have dealt with different levels of trauma, whether it’s emotional, whether it’s sexual, whether it’s verbal, that’s a level of trauma, we rarely talk about, if it’s psychic, and they have everything you could ever want, right? They have attention. They have financial success, they have professional success, and yet, they’re miserable, right? They’re swirling around drug addiction and alcohol, and they’re eating poorly. And on the magazine cover, they look great. But when you look a little bit underneath their skin, they’re highly traumatized human beings. And no one’s successes, allow them to transcend their trauma, you have to actually deal with this stuff, you got to go into the depth of this energy and transmute it. And if you can do that successfully, you can have a shot at feeling the power and the beauty of who it is you are, and the reason why you were actually created. And that’s cool. That’s my version of cool.

Melissa Rebronja

Yeah, absolutely. And there’s so much magic that happens with Body of Light. And I mean, I remember with you, you and I did a Body of Light on my brother and I wasn’t speaking with him at the time. I think we took like five years off whenever there was an incident that happened.

Christopher Maher 

A short amount of time.

Melissa Rebronja 

Well, I think it was something like that, and literally that afternoon. And I’m like holy, like literal. How does this happen? There’s so many magical stories like that. It’s always like you hear about about like, it’s not gonna happen to me. And I, it happened to me too. So I’m like, What is going on? How is it possible?

Christopher Maher 

Thousands of those. Like, I’ve had people who were in psychic care units in straitjackets. And were there because some interns had crossed some boundaries with them. And then the next day, they get a Facebook message from an intern that broke their sexual boundaries, asking, begging basically, for forgiveness. Because once you transmute that trauma state, now you can move back into right relationship and right relationship is loving, energetic, considerate, confident, fearless, and present. And if you can be in that state, in all the relationships where you have challenges and issues. Well, guess what everything about your life is wonderful. Well, I’m glad that that was a powerful experience for you.

Melissa Rebronja

Yeah. So the next one is Bio-Energetic Self Transformational Sequences. And that…

Christopher Maher

Bestercize.

Melissa Rebronja

Yeah. And they’re awesome. And I mean, whenever I do them, I feel better. It’s just having that discipline to do them. And I know when people work with them, you really get them to do it and people that you train. So that’s something I haven’t done in a while, but honestly, it’s there. And I always want to go back to. There’s an exercise for each organ in the body. Basically, it’s Chinese medicine, and it’s very powerful. So I think it’s great if you’re disciplined with it. Yes.

Christopher Maher 

Yeah. Here’s the thing about Bestercise, which is very unique, right? So let’s say, when you arrive to me, let’s say you were 27. And you had accumulated 27 years of tension, stress and distortion, right? Well, once we spend your first 28 days, in removing that stuff, it would be impossible for you to put all that back in. And so even if you took a five-six month break or your too long break. If you spent one day going back into your Bestercises, you would be right where you were when you left off. It’s the only system I know on the planet that works that way.

Melissa Rebronja

 I love that.

Christopher Maher

You’ll be right where you left off.

Melissa Rebronja 

I’m like, okay, I’m gonna start it because it’s so powerful.

Christopher Maher

And what’s beautiful about it is what you take out stays out. That’s the beauty of the work and True Body Intelligence. And that’s why I named it what I named it. True. Body. Intelligence. Because if you can get your body operating intelligently, does it manifest tension and stress and distortion the way that it used to? Absolutely not. What it does instead, is it actually changes the way that you’re relating with the moment. So you no longer manifest that kind of tension, stress and distortion. It’s a Get Out of Jail Free card for a long time.

Now, look, if you choose where you’re like, all right, I’m going on a bender, I’m going to Indonesia, I’m going to surf and get high and get drunk for 20 days. Yeah, you’re going to accumulate some stress from those experiences, because you put your body in a high state of stress. Yet, once you do one day of Bestercise, you’re going to come back to neutral immediately. And that’s what I love about this kind of work.

Melissa Rebronja

Beautiful. And do you do it daily still?

Christopher Maher

When do I do it? Sometimes I do it twice a day. Sometimes I do it for three hours. Sometimes I do it for 15 minutes. Sometimes I take two or three days off. I have a relationship with my body. That’s very unique, which means that I’ve transcended rigid discipline. And because I’ve transcended rigid discipline, I can use the work when it feels like that’s what my body wants.

Yet, what I would tell you is that on an average week, whether it’s me working on myself, or somebody working on me, I have at least eight to 10 sessions a week, right? So that’s, you know, somewhere around 40 sessions a month. So I have basically 550 to 60 hours a year of investing in my body and my energy and my emotions and my thoughts and feelings. That’s what makes sense to me. Because for me, if I’m looking at the planet, and I can complain, and I’ve got somewhat different views about everything. Yeah, there’s things going on in the world that are very triggering, right?

You’ve got Ukraine, you’ve got Russia. You’ve got America, this thing with Iran. You’ve got Hamas, Palestine, Israel. Water bottles, like everywhere you look. Yeah, right. Oil issue. There’s like problems everywhere. Yeah. So I look at that, and I go, look, I could complain, bitch, moan, whine, come up with some very strong opinions that are limiting beliefs.

Or what I can do is I can get into my body. And I can keep refining myself. Because as I keep refining myself, it keeps pushing up all the junk for the planet up to the surface. And the best gifts I can give to myself, give to my family, give to my country, give to my planet that I’m part of, is to be the best version of myself.

And so rigid discipline, I started out that way because I needed to. I applied SEAL training methods to healing methods. Yeah. And that works for me. Yeah, right. Then when I started working with people, I could see that Ooh, for somebody else, that’s too much.

Melissa Rebronja 

They’re not Navy SEALs.

Christopher Maher

Yeah. They had…they’re missing some training here. And yet, I’m going after their energy and their body as if they did. And so I thought, okay, let’s adjust things. And what I realized is, guess what? There’s this saying that Rome wasn’t built in a day. And as I started to think about that, I started applying that to transformation. I said, Oh, you mean, I get less with more.

And you’re a musician, and a singer. And you understand, like, there’s times when I have my guitar, I play every day, right? And then it always happens. There’s like six weeks where I take off because I’m busy in something else. I pick up my guitar, and I’m twice as good as I was before. And once I started becoming a musician, and I started seeing that I started to understand that transformation works the same way. You can hit it, and then you back off and then you grow while you’re backing off. Yeah, and so it’s good to take your foot off the gas, and you’ll actually get further, you’re actually learn more, you’re actually performing better. Yeah, that makes sense. And that’s been my life experience.

So I applied the same thing with the people that I work with and coach and they always look at me. It’s like, well, he’s a Navy SEAL. So I better get it done every day. And then I get a text and it goes, it says, oh, oh, PS, oops. I wasn’t able to do my Bestersizes yesterday. And I text them back and I go, Great. Cool. Would you like to start up again today? Yes. Good. Well, you’re going back to day one, right? Because I want them to understand that it’s important to build esteem. And it’s important to honor your word. And when you break your word to yourself, you lower your self esteem. So I want to honor them for choosing something different, right?

Like, Oh, I gotta fly to Indonesia tomorrow. Well, I know they could have gotten up 15 minutes early. I know they could get on a plane. It’s like a 21-hour flight. Right? You’ve had plenty of time, okay. So there’s no scolding. Right? Yeah. There’s no putting them down. If they choose to do something different. Well, hey, look, I’m glad you chose to do that with your time. And I want you to start rebuilding your esteem. So we’re going back to day one. Yeah. And they’re always like, Oh, my God, are you kidding me? I did 56 days straight. Yes. And you took one day to do something different. So now we’re going to honor you. Congratulations. I’m happy for you. I hope you enjoyed those six movies. Now, go back to day one.

Melissa Rebronja

Yeah, you’re committed to that. Yeah. There’s a self respecting feeling in that.

Christopher Maher

Yeah. Because then when you go back to day one, and you get back to day 56, you know what happens? They get to day 57. Yeah. And then next thing, I look at my phone, I’m like, there are 856 days in a row. And then I just send them a text like, man, you are doing so awesome. And then before you know it, they’re at like 1200 days in a row. And they’re 1500 days in a row. And now I know it’s a lifestyle for them.

Professionally, they’re having more success. relationship wise, they’re having more success. They’re having a better relationship with their body. They’re able to be more authentically self expressed. They’re communicating clearly defining good boundaries. They’re highly principled, they’re completing the tasks that they start, they have access to a sense of freedom. They’re being graceful. They’re passionate about the things that they’re doing. And they’re hopeful. And all that took was like 15 minutes a day. Are you kidding me? Yeah, that’s the easiest plan in the world.

And so I like to stay connected and attached to people, because I feel like the most important thing for someone to know is that someone cares enough to respond when they share about their accomplishment. And when they send me their texts, I consider that an accomplishment. And when they’re honest about making a different choice, I value that too. And I always write back, thank you for your honesty. Because I want them to know that honesty is important, and you should be valued for it.

Melissa Rebronja

Yes. Yeah, absolutely.

Christopher Maher

People are important. All they want is love and want love, care. And what I’ve figured out in the last year, is what they want most is consideration. They want you to consider where they’re coming from, where they’ve been, what they’re doing, and how they’re doing it and to approach them with compassion. Yet be direct and honest. That’s a powerful way to be.

Melissa Rebronja 

It is. Alright, let’s talk about Ma’Xing.

Christopher Maher

Okay. Ma’Xing

Melissa Rebronja

So Ma’Xing is something that I did keep along with Body of Light when I worked with people in person. I love, well I loved and hated, Ma’Xing when I first tried it. And so what it is basically is you have people lie down on their stomach and you are walking with your feet on the back of their legs, like thighs…

Christopher Maher 

Back, front, side, arms, chest, upper back.

Melissa Rebronja

All these different areas. So I experienced that myself on my own body like wow, it was a powerful thing and that’s another gift and then with my own clients like people are just like taken away, now some like prefer to be Ma’Xing than to get a massage.

Christopher Maher 

Oh for sure 1000%.

Melissa Rebronja

Your body wants. It is just such a good fit. You have these descriptors on your website. So if people are interested, they can kind of dip into reading more about each one of these.

Christopher Maher

You can go to the website, I have like a little picture to give an idea of what Ma’Xing might look like right?

Ma’Xing in Chinese means horse stomping. And what I do is I use my hooves. Only kidding, I use my feet. And in Chinese medicine, they figured out a couple of things. There’s energetic channels, and then there’s what they call TMM. They’re called tendo muscular channels. And so what I do is I lay down the map of Chinese Meridian theory over the body, and then I work on specific channels.

And I was educated to what those specific channels are connected to. Some are connected to the emotional body, some are connected to the instinctual physical body, some are connected to the mental analytical body, some are connected to the spiritual energetic body. And then the level of pain and discomfort that they have is letting me know whether or not they have a high level of intelligence in that channel. Or they have a low level of intelligence in that channel, if they’re an internal processor, or say, an external processor, if they’re highly dishonest, or they’re very honest.

Because the body always tells the truth. The mind will lie a thousand lies. Because the mind’s job is to keep you safe. Right? Right. So if somebody breaks into your house, and they’re like, Do you have any children? And you’re thinking they’re going to kill my children. No, I don’t have any children. Why? Well, I wanted to steal some children. I don’t have any. And they run out the door. That was a very good lie, because it kept you safe. Yeah, it kept your children safe.

So because the body’s willing to tell the truth, once you push into it, you have to be able to translate the information that it’s giving you. And so the beautiful thing is that your left body is connected to what is connected to your mother, the right side of your body is connected to your father, the left hemisphere of your brain is connected to dad, the right hemisphere of your brain is connected to mom. And so the body’s constantly giving me a massive amount of information around the environment that this person was raised in.

And so because I know what part of the body is connected to which aspect of their psychology, and their behavior and their emotions, and their energy and their consciousness and instinct, I can then begin making specific assumptions, which then allow me to formulate questions to validate and confirm the information that I’m picking up. And it’s always 100% accurate. It’s always been 100% accurate. And so what I love about the work, the Ma’Xing, the Isometric Strength, the Bestercize is Sha’Xing and Body of Light all together, we get to address different layers within the being.

We’re made of multiple layers, like look at anyone, you’ve got your you got Chinese astrology, right? You’ve got normal astrology, you got cardiology, you’ve got you’ve got all these different kinds of systems, you’ve got human design, you’ve got the Enneagram. And all these systems are talking about a very specific layer of the person.

And what I love about True Body Intelligence is we get to address every single layer. So this person can be truly free and grow into an amalgamated being. Someone who’s physically mentally, emotionally, spiritually and environmentally intelligent. And imagine if we have 100,000 to a million people on the planet, walking around that way. It’s a better planet for everyone. Like it’s a win win across the board.

Ma’Xing is one of those tools. And the reason why I love it, because there’s nowhere to hide from the excessive amount of sensation that you’re going to feel. Because the sensations that you’re feeling are letting us know, the limiting beliefs that you made up, and exactly how you operate.

Because I’m going to do an investigation first, and then I have to confirm, are the things that you told me true? Well, your body tells me the truth. Yeah. And if what you told me is different than what the information that I’m picking up, then we need to have a more sober conversation about some details you may have left out. And sure enough, when I get into the Ma’Xing, there are some details that they left out and I forgot, oh, might it have been important for you to let me know? Oh, that your brother threw you off the roof. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I never thought about it. Oh yeah, this is part of what you broke your leg. Yeah, lower leg. You broke your hip, and you broke your foot. Oh, I guess that is important.

Because what’s funny is, for me is people think that mentally, once they’ve forgiven their sibling, that the cost of that poor choice that the sibling made with their sister is suddenly gone. It’s gone mentally. It’s still there physically. It’s still there emotionally. It’s still there energetically. The mind can never transcend physical energetic or emotional trauma because it’s simply there for tracking, data and information. It has nothing to do with transmutation, or Transfiguration, or change or transformation. It’s there to track data and information. And so the body always tells the truth.

And Ma’Xing will always guarantee you that you know the truth about your own history. And the person you’re working with knows the truth about your history. Because wherever you have pain, you have absence. Wherever you have pain, you have absence, if I did my thumb into your shoulders painful, there’s an aspect of your boundary that’s absence, if I dig into your quad, on the outside, there’s a place where you’re absent around your relationship with food. If I dig into the back of your hamstring, the short head of biceps for Morris, which just means the lateral hamstring, the back of your leg, you have three big muscles, the one that’s on the outside in the back, if I push it into that, and there’s a lot of pain, I know you’re incredibly dishonest, you’ve got things to hide. Yeah.

And so the more you use the Ma’Xing to pull out to strip down, and to push out the excessive stress and tension and distortion that’s in all those soft tissues, the easier it is for a person to be themselves. And the more confident they become in their life choices.

Melissa Rebronja

Yeah. Makes sense. Yes.

Christopher Maher

Absolute sense.

Melissa Rebronja

Yeah. It does it make sense. I was going to call this “A conversation with Christopher, How to heal your tissues”

Christopher Maher 

How to heal the issues in your tissues.

Melissa Rebronja

Yeah. so they say issues are in tissues. And with all the True Body Intelligence

Christopher Maher

I made that up, by the way.

Melissa Rebronja

Did you? Okay, great. I love it.

Christopher Maher

Yeah, of course. almost 25 years ago.

Melissa Rebronja 

Yeah. So that’s how you heal the tissues?

Christopher Maher 

Yeah that’s right. So when you look at the tissues, we could say like this, the psychological emotional, energetic issues are in your tissues. And so wherever you have pain, you have disconnection from your authentic self.

And I see all these people in the world and they’re seeking and meditating and reading books and are going to sit at the foot of this guru and etc. And you can do that I’m sure that has some value, yet, none of that. No green juice that you sip. No 10 Day Vipassana, none of those things will ever remove the issues in your tissues.

You have to take that tension, that stress that distortion, that stagnation out. And once you do, it’s out. Now you’re free. And what can be more valuable than freedom, right to know that you actually are at choice around every aspect of your life? Definitely. That’s powerful.

And so Ma’Xing for the listeners, this could be an enormously powerful tool for you. Because once you experience your own internal pain at the depth of what that pain really is, there’s no unknowing that. And at least you know, it’s there. And then you can take it out a little bit at a time, a little bit at a time little bit at a time before you know it. You got a body that feels really comfortable. Like, look, I’m gonna be 60 soon. There’s no pain in my body. Right. There’s comfort and pleasure. I had a body at 29 years old, which was full of pain constantly. And here I am, you know? 27-28 years later, still feeling great.

Melissa Rebronja

You talk about that in your book, right?

Christopher Maher

Yeah, for sure.

Melissa Rebronja

So tell us about ShaKing.

Christopher Maher

ShaKing, okay. It’s interesting. You know, it was introduced to me, this would be 2013. Very interesting guy invited me down to New Orleans and I’m going there next week. So it’s funny, of course, that this has come full full circle. It’s been a long time since I talked about it.

I went down to meet this guy who was a scientist and did a bunch of research in Africa around this form of medicine they called ShaKing, shaking medicine, right. And if you break the word Shah, and King apart, it’s two words, right? So SHA means spirit. And a king means spirit medicine. And then King means the Supreme. So I call it the king medicine. And the reason why I call it that is because they want you to shake out of syncopation, which means out of time, where usually let’s say you and I went to the disco, right, the beats going and we’re dance and dancing, right, or dancing to the beat well in ShaKing, they’re doing the opposite of that you’re staying as best you can outside of the beat, making these non syncopated movements, which then breaks up the rigidity around how you think it’s how you breathe, how you move, and how you proceed.

It’s absolutely genius. And they have record in Africa of using this method. For 60,000 years, the Kalahari Bushmen, 60,000 years when someone got sick, they had a form of shaking medicine that they did 60,000 years, it’s the oldest form of medicine that we know. Yeah, it’s very, very profound. And the good thing is, it’s free. Yeah, healers are expensive, ShaKing, can give you powerful transformation. And I love it. Because it’s a tool you can use in the privacy of your own home, in your own timing.

Everything that I’ve created, and have been a part of the thing that I love about it most is you can do it all in the privacy of your own home, you can do your Body Light at home, you can do Bestercise at home, you can do your ShaKing at home. And if you spent 20 minutes a day using these three tools, for what 30 days straight, you’re going to notice that you’re a different person.

But here’s the fun thing. You’re gonna get unsolicited feedback from people who meet you like your sister, maybe she hadn’t seen you for months, you’re gonna come in, she was like, Katie, what have you been doing? You look, great. Katie’s gonna go, what have I been doing? This is weird my sister and ever says this kind of thing. Because when you’re on the vibe, when the energy is flowing, everybody recognizes it, everybody feels it, because it makes them feel better to be around you. What can be more amazing than that. And so you’re gonna get unsolicited feedback, and that’s going to be very, very, very powerful.

Melissa Rebronja

So you have programs on your website where people can purchase online programs, which is great. And so how can people work with you?

Christopher Maher 

It’s simple, I have a very specific process that I put people through first, you have to buy the book, you have to take a risk with your own time, and with your own resources, and you have to put in a few hours to read this book. And if you’re willing to read my book Free for Life: A Navy SEAL’s Path to Inner Freedom and Outer Peace. I’m willing to have a 30 minute conversation with you about how I can help you in some way. And maybe the chances are that personally, we never work together yet, I’m going to give you some information that I think will be valuable for you are some steps that you can take or I can point you to some other people that I think can help you.

Or what you can do is you can buy that and choose to never call me and talk to me and you’re like I’m hyper independent. I got this buddy. And you decide I’m going to purchase the 8 Stepping Stones. In the 8 Stepping Stones, I give you a specific Body of Light transmutation, so around physical stress, emotional stress, sexual stress, separation stress, like eight different forms of very powerful integration that you can use again and again and again. And every time you do a Body Light, you shed another layer of shadow, right? And now you become more light, then you shed another layer of shadow. You do that 15, 20, 30 times, you’re going to be beaming. And when you’re beaming, everything in your life gets easier.

It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous how profound the changes are. And look, some people they’re lazy, right? If they get it through one time, it’s good for them. But if you’re somebody like me or somebody like Melissa, and you’re really focused on transformation, and you’ve dedicated your life to it, take a small risk and go through the 8 Stepping Stones in your privacy of your own home by yourself. And you’re going to create some really profound experiences for you. And then I give you eight modules of deep education. That’s going to help you get more present It’s very exciting. These are exciting times for me.

Melissa Rebronja 

Yeah. And then people can also work with you.

Christopher Maher 

People can work with me privately. But in order to do that, you have to read the book first. Yeah. And then you organize a call through my assistant, you email her, assist.rit@gmail.com. And then she gets back to you immediately. Christina is great. And then we get set up on a 30-minute call. And we see if we’re correct for each other. Because I would love to add value to your life. But after we talk, you might go well, I think I was looking for something different. Yeah. And so I’m willing to serve you, you will get something profound out of those 30 minutes, I promise you.

Melissa Rebronja

One last question, Christopher, you introduced me to human design? Yeah. What I liked about it is that you were so serious about it, where I tend to just, you know, try something on, but now it’s a big part of my life, I get readings, and it’s like, I tried to get away, but it just keeps coming back. So now I’m in. So thank you for that. And do you still use human design in your work? I’m curious.

Christopher Maher

For me, it’s essential that I know someone’s human design chart, and I read it. And this is the reason why. Because let’s say I had a non-energy type. So for you listeners who know nothing about human design, I’m gonna give you some basics.

You have energy types, and you have non energy types. You have emotionals and non emotionals. You have people with strong immune systems, and weak immune systems. And yet people with strong, well-defined egos, and people who are open-hearted.

So, when I looked at someone’s chart, I’m looking first to see are they emotionally defined, because if they’re emotionally defined, and I’m investigating them on the first day, I know that they’re retroactive and how they process information. So I need to leave enough room that they can tell me more information on day two and day three, right?

If I’m with somebody who’s emotionally open, I already know that they’re present centered around their own experience. And so the information that they give me is pretty accurate, right?

If someone’s a non energy type, and I take them in the room where we do the work, and we’re doing intense physical work, and I take them too far, I know when they show up tomorrow, they’re going to be exhausted.

I know, if I have someone who has a massive amount of energy, and I choose to never exhaust that energy source, I know they’re never going to be open enough to get the real change, it’s a really need.

And so the thing about understanding human design is, is that every human was designed for very specific purpose in a very specific way. And the way that they were designed gives them advantages. And the places where they’re open in their chart, they are here to learn from the world around them. And so the more you know about these specific layers about yourself, the better equipped you are to make really good decision to your benefit around your time, your energy, your resources and your skill set.

And so what I tell people is no one is above their design. And either you’re operating as you were designed, or you’re being the exact opposite of your chart. And so the work that we’re doing through body intelligence, is to simply get you to be your design. Because if we can get you operating as the way you were intended, and designed to be functioning, wherever you are in the world, you’re creating harmony, because you’re being you.

The problem is, the challenge is, when people have trauma, they become the opposite of their design. And instead of creating harmony, they create chaos. And rather than being in a chaotic world, I want to be in a harmonious experience. Yeah. And so human design in my form of work is essential. Because once I get people operating correctly making the right decisions in the way they were designed to make decisions their success level goes from novice level to master level. And now they’re creating the real impact that they want to create. That’s what I want to be involved in people that are operating the way they were designed. Because when you’re doing that, life is easy. Life is so easy. And all you have to do is implement these details that they give you. And it all makes sense.

Melissa Rebronja

Yeah. That resonates for me. I mean, I came off the roof last year as a line six. And everything’s just coming together. Coming off the roof. It’s like, whether I like it or not here I am, you know? Yeah.

Christopher Maher

Yeah, this is beautiful. And you’re emotionally defined, correct?

Melissa Rebronja 

Yes. Yeah.

Christopher Maher 

Yes, that’s right. Yeah.

Melissa Rebronja 

16.

Christopher Maher 

You also I think you have the 4521 as well.

Melissa Rebronja

Yes, I do. Yeah. We have the same chipset

Christopher Maher 

You actually have the ego and the emotional center?

Melissa Rebronja

Yes.

Christopher Maher 

Yeah. Which makes you a very powerful manifester. Because you can be sober and direct. And you can be emotional, and thoughtful and caring. So it makes you very dynamic. All the people who work with you are so lucky.

Melissa Rebronja

Thank you. Yeah. Well, thank you, Christopher. lovely to have you as a guest

Christopher Maher

You’re so welcome. Yeah, it was great. It was great. Just hanging out with you.  I had a lot of fun. I love sharing so this you know, we’re both transpersonal beings so what’s we’re gonna get in co-create something. We want to create something that’s to the benefit of other people. Well, thank you for inviting me. And listeners, thank you for listening. And this was a powerful experience and I’m so glad we had some time to just divide out and to connect and to share you know, that’s feels like the most important thing to me in this time of my life.

Melissa Rebronja

I’m glad. Thank you Christopher.


Christopher Lee Maher is a former Navy SEAL who endured intense amounts of physical, mental, and emotional stress as a child and during and after his military career. He has taught himself how to free his energy, body, mind and emotions from pain by developing the emotional, physical, mental, and spiritual aspects of being. Christopher studied Traditional Chinese Medical Practices at the Pacific College of Oriental Medicine and at Yo San University, then continued his studies at The Universal Healing Tao System. He is a student of Grand Master Mantak Chia at the Universal Tao Master School in Chiang Mai, Thailand, and is currently pursuing his Master’s and Doctorate degrees in Traditional Chinese Medicine.

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